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    October 18, 2012
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the san francisco planning code. >> colleagues same house, same call? this is passed [ gavel ] . >> item 27 ordinance amending the administrative code by adding section 10e.4 to monitor san francisco's housing preservation and production polices and goals. >> colleagues any discussion on this item? supervisor wiener? >> thank you mr. president. i don't know if the author was planning to make introductory comments. i would be happy to defer. >> supervisor olague would you like to make introductory comments? [ inaudible ] >> supervisor wiener. >> thank you very much, mr. president. i voted against this item in committee and clearly at
articulated what my concerns is that we have a housing affordability supply crisis in san francisco. one of those elements is investment in affordable housing to make sure that we are providing that important category of housing, but there are other aspects of well and as much it would be great that we had enough government resources to make that the sole solution. realistically we're never going to be there. there is simply not enough public money for us to be able to invest the that level. so my concern with this legislation was that as a dashboard, to show the planning commission the status of affordable housing for every single project coming before the commission was as if you had a dashboard that had the odometer on it and nothing else.
if you have a dashboard it should give a complete picture of our housing situation. how many efficiencies, studios? one-bedroom? two-bedrooms we're producing, et cetera and to have that complete picture for the planning commission as it is considering various projects that come before it. so today i have distributed an amendment. we have distributed to you via email this morning and in addition, i had alerted several colleagues including supervisor olague on saturday that the amendment would be coming. and that the amendment would reflect the concerns that i expressed in committee where all supervisors, including the author were present at that committee hearing. so the amendment would do exactly as i
just indicated. would add in addition to informing the planning commission in the report about the status of affordable housing production to-date. would add in production of housing for middle-income households, including households earning between 120% and 150% of ami. senior housing and then the different sizes of housesing. so family housing, housing for single people, et cetera. i have worked closely with the planning department to ensure that they are able to collect this data. and they feel confident that they will be able to do so. my amendments do notice change the other housing items proposed for monitoring under this legislation. now the planning department did request that i include a provision making clear that the dashboard would apply to projects that are already going to the planning commission and would not apply, for example,
if someone is putting a deck on in the back of their house and it doesn't require going to the planning commission. i know there has been some questions raised about that. and if anyone would like to raise those questions, the planning department is here to responds to those. because i did put those in at the request of the department. so colleagues i do move the amendment as distributed. >> supervisor wiener has made a motion to amend as he described. is there a second to his amendments? seconded by supervisor cohen. discussion? supervisor olague? >> i'm fine with the one regarding the income, monitoring additional. the reason we left it at 120 is the standard that abag and others apply. it wasn't that we were against it, but certainly we didn't
have many concerns with adding that. but the other issue i don't support the second amendment at this time. i think there are area plans and other housing that comes that are not necessarily going to go to the planning commission automatically. market octavia, eastern neighborhoods, and other plans. i believe that some of the projects because of the way the plans were finally approved, some of that housing won't come back for additional reviews to the planning commission. there are a lot of as of rights housing projects that i assume don't ever go to planning. so it's those projects that i'm concerned that we won't be
capturing, if we add that second amendment. and that is why when the planning department came to our office initially asking us to add the amendment, we would not accept it at that time. because even other community housing organizations that we had been working with had raised concerns that we wouldn't be capturing some of the projects that the city was considering as of right. so that was the concern that i had. the first amendment, the one regarding the review of the affordable pieces i'm completely in favor of and fine with that. >> supervisor wiener? >> so if i could just clarify with supervisor olague. the area that i think supervisor olague has expressed concern with is basically four words on page 4, line 24 of the amendment. that states, "to the planning commission," and i want to make sure that i'm correct in my
interpretation of supervisor olague's remarks she is okay with the remainder of the amendment, but not with "to the planning commission." with that i would move to divide the amendment so we can vote on everything except the phrase "to the planning commission." and vote on that separately and if we could take the first amendment and ask the planning department staff to address the second amendment. >> okay. so supervisor wiener has amended the amendments. you withdraw your initial amendment and the revised amendment is the language he has proposed to be changed. and that is seconded by supervisor cohen. >> so everything except to that one phrase i would move
separately. >> colleagues any discussion on that amendment? can go that amendment without objection? without objection, that is the case and now to supervisor wiener's second amendment, which is on page 4, the limitation of the housing production summary attachment involving staff reports to the planning commission. those four words, that amendment was also supported by supervisor cohen and i know i think i also along with others have questions to the planning department. so is there a representative from planning that could talk to us about the need for that limitation? >> good afternoon, board members, anne marie rogers from the planning department. we approached supervisor olague about the concern and the way it's currently written without the amendment from supervisor wiener it would be required that we do this dashboard report for every residential
project with five or more residential units. as supervisor olague note there had are some projects that have five or more units that do not go before hearing before the planning commission. our objection to adding a dashboard report as part of our analysis for these programs is that we don't currently produce any report at all for these projects. it's a matter of review of the plans. and approval of the plans, if they are compliant with the code. that would be the steps. so our concern if we are to add a dashboard report to these projects since we're not currently publishing any report would require for the first time the production of reports for these code-compliant projects that would add time, expense and delay to the cost these housing projects. which are generally pretty small and they are able to be approved without a hearing before the planning commission. >> colleagues, other questions? supervisor olague? >> i mean, i don't support it. i don't support that amendment.
>> could you -- my question really is to planning, but it would also be to other colleagues. can you give us a sense if that language was not included, it seems to me that would capture a broader slice of what housing has produced in the city, which would more accurate. but i want to understand what the problem with that would be? >> the problem with the language, exactly as it says here it's required for the planning department staff reports on all proposed projects five units or move shall include the dashboard. and i'm not sure if it has any meaning because there are currently no required reports. so i'm not sure what we would attach the dashboard to and our concern is that people might say that you need to start producing reports to fulfill this requirement. so all these projects which currently we did plan review, check and approval of, we would now possibly need to produce a report and attach
the dashboard. so either it doesn't have any meaning or because we don't produce reports, or it does have meaning and we should start producing reports so we can attach the dash boards to. it if that is clear? >> supervisor olague? >> i didn't anticipate this amendment creeping up again, because we had discussed it at length and we were clearly opposed to adding that kind of language originally. so i didn't think i would be to be addressing it here today obviously. i think with the -- i think that it would give a better competence sense of what we're actually constructing and approving and moving forward. because the approval of the neighborhood plans, prior to that there were probably a lot more project those would have gone through the planning commission. with the eastern neighborhood
and market octavia in place, i am wondering if we wouldn't be capturing, because of that change, you know? that a lot more would be going on without the review of the planning commission that in past would have gone to the planning commission for review. so i'm concerned that we're really not truly assessing what is moving ahead. that is all. i don't know if you have a response to that. >> miss rogers, is there any way to have an expansive sense of what could be captured? i think if we strike the words "to the planning commission," that you open it up to all sorts of reports, but if there are other area plans or other housing that are being produced that we may want to know about. is there another universe we could possibly add (yes.
thank you for the question. while our department would prefer not to produce new reports to attach the dashboard to it. there are additional projects where we do currently produce reports and the dashboard could be attached to those. hearings before the historic preservation and hearings on the residential projects on appeal before the board of supervisors. >> have you considered language that staff reports to the planning commission and to hpc and to the board of supervisors related to various area plans? is there language that could capture that? >> yes. is it might be easier for case reports or appeals before the board. we could do that. we could implement that.
>> i guess in a way it would have been easier, but i don't have anything prepared really to evaluate this after it's in place to see if it really does have -- whether or not it does add an unusual burden to the workload of the department. because that is what i'm hearing the concern is here. and we're not really clear of that, because this hasn't even been instituted yet. maybe at this point we could just continue it for a week. can we do that? >> supervisor campos? >> i would like to move to continue. >> i would second the motion to continue for a week. >> just a week. >> okay. and i guess one request i would make of planning staff if you want to propose some language, i think it actually could be quite simple to state that the planning department staff reports, et cetera. it would probably capture what
i think we're trying to get a. i would support a motion to continue for a week with the understanding that we'll wrap this issue up over the next week. supervisor kim? >> if i can just add a few words? i want to thank supervisor olague's office for bringing this forward to us. i believe that supervisor campos and i co-sponsored a hearing to review the finding from the budget and legislative analyst's report and one recommendation that remain out of that report was to have a better monitoring system to have an assessment of what we're building here in san francisco, so we're not looking at projects, project-by-project, but we have an understanding of the universe of what we're building in san francisco. so i support supervisor wiener's
thoughts. i do want to make sure that however we have this reporting mechanism that we do it in way that is not overly burdensome on planning, but doesn't prevent of from getting fairly regular reports on monitoring. because i think this is an issue that is to utmost importance to us on the board to make sure that we have a diversity of housing being built and constructed in san francisco. so i appreciate the multiple perspectives coming forward and hopefully at some point planning could come to our office to explain how we [tpao-eupld/] find that balance. supervisor campos. >> i think it would be helpful to have a few more days to discuss this. and i think that this is a tool that hopefully will be able to
provide us information about a number of issues. and i think that including more information makes sense. i also want make sure that we're correct in sort of the terminology. in terms of income level if it's middle-income or upper-middle income. i think we just have to be accurate in how to describe it. so i look forward to the discussion next few days. thank you. >> supervisor wiener? >> thank you. i do want to respond to that last remark that supervisor campos made. the 120-150% of ami is terminology that has been used in the city and elsewhere has always been referred to as middle-income housing. earlier this year i believe including the budget analyst's report earlier this year when i did a hearing on middle-income
housing there was an effort to say no 120-150 is really upper-middle class housing. i think it's almost a way of disparaging it like these are upper-class people who are just doing just fine as opposed to people who really -- some of who are leaving the city because of the housing and educational issues. i wanted to be real clear that 120-150 does fall within middle-income housing. and you may recall that earlier this year the speaker of the assembly, one of the highest ranking democrats and labor leaders in california, john perez introduced legislation to allow families who are middle-class to receive, i believe a two-thirds reduction in their tuition at state universities. unfortunately the legislation did not pass, but he pursued it.
guess what? in san francisco 150% of ami is just slightly above $150,000 for a family of four. and of course san francisco has a much higher cost of living than the state as a whole. so if speaker john perez says that middle-class for a family, for the whole state of california goes up to $150,000 a year, then i think it's incredibly reasonable to say that the same is true in san francisco, even though it's much more expensive to live here than it is in most of the state your full name i did just want to make that comment because the argument is not well-taken that to state 120-150 is upper-middle class than middle-class. >> supervisor campos.
>> i don't think having a different perspective is disparaging and it's one of areas where there is room for disagreement. from my perspective it's good to provide more information and i certainly think that the more information that we get through this tool, the better. but i don't think that productive for us to focus on the intent of what we're trying to do. i think that we're all trying to get to the same result. >> supervisor avalos? >> thank you. i support having more time to sift through this. i have a reaction to the statement about perez. he is talking about what is meaningful towards our school system and higher education. i think that is a different value that is being put on in terms of what we're talking about what middle-income is. i think he is talking about making sure that we're expanding tuition in a very
different way than we're thinking about housing in san francisco. so i just want to caution that we're not making apples-to-apples comparison and it's very different what we're trying to do around housing in san francisco. >> supervisor olague. >> the mayor's office on housing, what language is appropriate here? because there was difference made between middle-income housing and upper-middle income housing. so we want to check with the mayor's office. >> the last question we have is to miss rogers. i think what i heard i state there were a number of departments including this body, the planning commission and hpc, to whom you wrote reports. it might be -- i want to suggest that perhaps a different way of handling this amendment, that we have at issue is to prefer to the
planning commission to broaden it a little bit. i want to leave that to you and the legislative sponsor and supervisor wiener as you work this through. something broader than what was propose, but doesn't create undue burden on your department in creating reports. >> thank you for that board president chiu, i appreciate that offer and i appreciate the extra week this body is giving us to work with the legislative sponsor and supervisor wiener on the best public policy response. with that, i think supervisor olague has made a notion continue this item to the 23rd of october. seconded by supervisor campos. colleagues any objection to the motion to continue? without objection this item will be continued for one week. [ gavel ] >> madame clerk, item 28. >> item 28 is abordinance amending the business and tax regulation code how members of citizens advisory committee for the central market street and
tender loin area shol be appointed. >> supervisor kim. >> is a simple amendment to the legislationings that created the tax exclusion citizen advisory committee. in the original legislation, we had only established staggered terms for six of the 11 members and this legislation simply assigns all eleven members to staggered two and four-year terms. i appreciate your support. thank you. >> colleagues roll call on this item. >> supervisor elsbernd? >> elsbernd aye. >> supervisor farrell aye. >> supervisor kim? >> kim aye. >> supervisor mar, marr aye. >> supervisor olague. >> olague aye. >> supervisor wiener. >> aye. >> supervisor avalos? >> aye. >> supervisor campos? >> campos aye. >> president chiu. >> chue aye. >> supervisor chu. >> aye. >> supervisor cohen, aye,
>> there are eleven ayes. >> item 29 a motion appointing annemarie fortier, susana russo and sharie o'neill, >> same house, same call. >> motion approved item 30. >> motion appointing paul giussi to the graffiti advisory board. >> same house, same call, item approved. >> >> item 31 is approved. >> item 32 is a motion appointing bruce oka term ending april 27th 2013 to the sunshine ordinance task force. >> colleagues same house same call. this motion is approved. item 33. >> item 33 is a motion apointing supervisor eric mar term ending november 28,2013 to the california state
association of counties board of directors. >> colleagues do we have a motion to , second and without objection, roll call vote. >> on all right 33, supervisor elsbernd? >> aye. >> elsbernd aye. >> supervisor farrell? >> aye. >> aye. >> supervisor kim? >> kim aye. >> supervisor olague? >> olague aye. >> supervisor wiener? >> wiener aye. >> supervisor avalos? >> aye. >> avalos aye. >> supervisor campos? >> aye. >> campos aye. >> president chiu? >> chiu aye. >> supervisor chu? >> chu aye. >> supervisor [kho*-erpb/]? >> cohen aye. >> there are ten eyes. motion approved. why don't we go to our 3:30 special order and i understand supervisor olague has a special commendation. >> in working with a lot of the tenants in the public housing and coop, some of the
federally and publicly funded housing, i have found that the many times that the people who really hold things up there for the community are the women. so whether that is miss holings at plaza east or adrian or miss jones in west side court, so i wanted to honor and recognize all of the work that miss jones was committed to when she was a resident at west side courts where she was, i believe for over 15 years. so it's my pleasure to give commendation to elizabeth jones the former president of the tenants association since 2007. miss jones is a great advocate for residents and the west side courts development. she served on tenants association executive board for the past five years.
in that time she formed a partnership with booker t. washington community center, and momagic to open a computer lab and afterschool program. in 2010 she saw a need for summer activities for the children and started a camp with her own resources and has improved the community. in fact, last year she was recognized by the national alliance of resident services in affordable and assisted house for her work on supporting children and youth in public housing. miss jones was also involved in the pre-development and planning process for the redevelopment of west side courts. her input was critical, and even has helped us as we move
forward with the anti-displacement right to return legislation that was heard at land use committee yesterday. miss jones really has helped the community greatly and has introduced the residents to a variety of groups community grows to kaiser in order to need health and wellness and building community. she has accomplished great things in her own life, raising five children and graduating from the hope sf academy and attained certification in culinary arts. i'm very pleased to honor her today. thank you, miss jones for all of your hard work. [ applause ]
>> i just want to say thank you so much. i really appreciate this. it's a heartfelt moment, and i would like to cry, but i'm going to miss being at west side because i really enjoyed the work there with the kids. the youth program was really, really amazing and i'm really going to miss them. and i'm so happy to have played a part there and i plan to return there. thank you for acknowledging me. [ applause ]